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Tim Williams
07-19-2004, 07:33 AM
Duffy's blood & urine tests came back OK late friday night, but she still urinated in her sleep Friday & Saturday nights. In the past, she has had to have her anal glands emptied so I thought that they may be the culprit. Had them emptied Sunday and they said the right one was really full. The vet said that full anal glands would not make her urinate in her sleep.

You guys have any ideas?

I am beating my head against the




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gw-smith
07-19-2004, 07:47 PM
Tim - glad to hear the blood tests came back good - if her kidneys are functioning normally that's great. About the urination during her sleep. Do you actually see her urinate while sleeping OR does she urinate in the house at night when she is supposed to be sleeping?? There are many things that can cause frequent urination (including accidents at night) but it is very abnormal for a dog to actually urinate while sleeping. This would likely indicate more of a neurologic (brain) disorder. Let me know which it is and I'll give you some more ideas.

Tim Williams
07-20-2004, 06:58 AM
Thanks for the info. Usually, when her calcium level is high, she would urinate in her sleep. I know this because last year she wet two beds during the night on a goose hunting trip. No, she wasn't mad at either one of us! After we got her levels w/in the normal range, she stopped. Now, the past two weekends at the cabin (she sleeps in the cabin on weekends) she has wet my bed, so much so that it woke me up and she was laying in it, the next night it was the couch. Last weekend I took my dog crate w/ us & had her sleep in it w/ a "potty pad" in it. She urinated both nights even tho I took her out at 10, and again at around 3 AM. I will bring her in tonight & put her in her crate to see if she still urinates after having her anal sacks exercised.

We still haven't heard from the vet at Oklahoma State University.

Any ideas?

gw-smith
07-20-2004, 08:40 PM
Tim - to tell you the truth I don't have a good answer. Your vet did the right thing by checking the blood and urine to start with. The usual cause of a dog urinating inappropriately is an infection of the urinary tract (kidneys, urethra, etc) but if the urine is normal this isn't likely.

There are other endocrine diseases that could cause this and maybe even some drugs that cause incontinence in dogs but nothing real common. I'll ask around at work (where there are specialists) and see if anyone has any ideas. I don't think it would be the anal glands but if she stops thats great.

Keep me up to date with what the dog is doing and let me know if you find out any more information from the OSU vets. duffy certainly has an interesting medical history - she would make for a good case report.

Tim Williams
07-21-2004, 06:59 AM
Thanks for the info & encouragement. Duffy has been through a lot to stay alive the past two years. The OSU vets are supposed to write a paper on her (they have used her case as a teaching tool) since her illness & all that she has been through is pretty rare. She's come close to death 3 times, seizures, immune system has reacted to vacines (no more rabies shots, etc) and keeping me up at night worrying about her.

Thanks again for you help.

Jossie
07-21-2004, 10:20 PM
Tim, I must applaud what all you have done for Duffy....very impressive my friend!!! I know it's a labor of love....but you have really stepped up to the plate.
Give ole Duf a pat on the head for me and an extra dog bone, and tell her I hope to meet her one day. I'm sure Lily and her would have a good time.:cool:

Tim Williams
07-23-2004, 07:22 AM
Bill, thanks for the kind words. I appreciate them.

I heard from Duffy's vet that he was finally able to talk to the vet at OSU. They decided not to change her intake of vitamin D & requested that I monitor her water intake for 24 hours & report it to them. I will do it this weekend, but watching her this week I could tell that she is pretty much back to her "normal" self.

So much for easy problems to find & take care of.

When she sits beside me & puts her head in my lap & sighs deeply, & looks up into my eyes, I then know what we have been through to keep her alive is well worth it, and I will continue to be her friend & caretaker.

I just hope that when I look into my wife's eyes, she will think that I am worth it, and not go looking for my 357 :TT:

gw-smith
07-24-2004, 03:12 PM
Glad to hear Duffy is doing better. I hope she continues to hang in there and has many more years with you.

Skip C
07-25-2004, 05:02 PM
GW,

Isn't there a drug that was used for incontinence in people that is now used for dogs?

Skip C